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Post time 2006-3-27 21:58:06 |Display all floors
Originally posted by don1985 at 2006-3-27 21:32
Yes, we cannot eliminate it NOW


You can never eliminate it.

Your understanding about socialism seems shallow.


So is yours!

“Poverty is not socialism, socialism is to eliminate poverty" True. And maybe, as you mentioned above, China still have a long way to go to eliminate poverty.


China spent 23 years after 1955 to make everyone poor. It is just recently that the levels have been brought on par with the 1955 level. Not thanks to socialism, but to capitalism. It took 27 years to bring back what was destroyed during 23 years. Amazing.

However, I don’t agree with you that prostitution should be used as economic booster. That is obviously not socialism and harmony society but prostitution-oriented developing country.


Then I propose that you do as one usually does in socialist countries, namely raise taxes and redistribute the wealth. Free schooling, free medical care, guranteed jobs. Oh yeah, I forgot... that's how they do it in capitalist Europe.

Because if people don't have either education or jobs, there WILL be prostitution. It will be even if there are jobs and education, but then we are talking numbers.
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Post time 2006-3-28 00:53:57 |Display all floors
Not all capitalist country are devoloped,democratic,and wealthy .Some countries,like India, some of africans and south Americans  are remined poor in many respects due to many diffcults and history problems that not the same as we have.It's meaningfulless to judge weather china is Captilist country or Socialism country but set up a system of democracy and improve resident's life are important.

It seems ,as your comments,legalize prosititutions  is one of  marks for the opened captilist countries,it benefits us lot,we can use money from sex industy invest in frastructure,bulid schools,medical care facilities ,etc.Now that it is good why we discouage this go and legal?is it voilate the standard of morality I am sure it is.Prositutiona become legal will arise more social problems and so called the open mind use it request somthing aganist morality legal and will infrige upon women's rights and interets because hookers are commodities and thoese who accepet their sevice become comsumers.In essence,women are weak group in society and our government should safeguard their interests ,create more job oppotunities to them rather than let them(poor women for money) fall into hookers legally by passing the act.

Prostitutiona are not a sympol of  a freedom,openess,cvilized country.If there are many women live by prosititue,I believe,it's not a glorious and nomal Phenomenon .[color=Blue


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Post time 2006-3-28 01:22:27 |Display all floors
Originally posted by farruca at 2006-3-28 00:53

Prositutiona become legal will arise more social problems and so called the open mind use it request somthing aganist morality legal and will infrige upon women's rights and interets because hookers are commodities and thoese who accepet their sevice become comsumers.


But, as has been stated before: if prostitution is illegal and not tolerated, you create MORE problems than if prostitution is either illegal and tolerated, or completely legal. These are facts. You may ignore facts if you want to, but then Mr. Hu will be very mad at you.

You see, the social problems are there; they will not disappear. So the only thing you can do is to MINIMIZE the harm done. The vision of a world without prostitution and social problems is nothing but a big, fat pipe dream.

Legalization of prostitution is not an endorsement of the sex trade; it is a compromise to minimize the damage.
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Post time 2006-3-28 08:20:59 |Display all floors
Originally posted by broken_heart at 2006-3-28 08:14
You want to chop the male head's off just for controversy!


Why not chop off... nevermind. I leave this to Wham!poa to figure out.
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Post time 2006-3-28 08:33:20 |Display all floors

Reply #63 don1985's post

Maybe you misunderstood my meaning. I concludes that prostitute should be legal because there will be more advantages than disadvantages doing that. Now there are many society problems due to its non-legalization, such as any cases of blackmail and killing, the spread of AIDS and venereal disease.

The main reason that most chinese opposite is their conservative in sex and think if legalize, it will bring about more harm to our socialism. In fact the great harm exists due to its non-legazilation now. To eliminate the harm, legalization is a good choice. If it isn't , what do you think the good way is?

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Post time 2006-3-28 12:39:21 |Display all floors

Reply #61 liangzai's post

1.No way surprising you cannot see socialism in China, because it is still in the process of construction and far from perfect. Hence it is especially difficult for you, Mr. Liangzai, to tell it, although you know a lot of things about China, which impressed me very much.

2.I’m indeed surprised how quickly a situation would change. But I also believe something that distinguishes human from animals should remain the same as ever. Not all changes of  people's mind are worth praising, and not all old ideas are rubbishy. Human revolution and modernization don’t mean that something happened later is undoubtedly better.

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Post time 2006-3-28 12:46:27 |Display all floors

Neither sides are wrong or right in this complicated modern world.

The world is becomming 'flat' again so we must live among each other with tolerance.

I say in a inter-dependent world today there is no way to shun liberals or conservatives. We need to find a balance and meet at the middle of it's equilibrium. Call it Electicism or Moderation shall we.
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