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Post time 2006-3-16 15:49:37 |Display all floors
Originally posted by mencius at 2006-3-16 09:23
But still worth commenting upon.

Is perhaps the most significant problem with education in China the fact that in far too many places "teachers" are there to tell their students ...

I am not sure why, I don’t feel that way.

When I was in high school and college, we were encouraged to ask questions. Some of the teachers even encourage us must learn something different from what they taught us, and if we could answer or analyze the questions in different ways, even it is not perfect, we would get a full score.

Of course not all the teachers were in this way, some of the teachers were actually not desire to do so because they were not able to answer the tough questions from students.

It is an old saying that Chinese students lack of practical skills, I don’t feel that way.

The biggest problem I see is still the college teachers are not qualified so that they are not able to spark good discussions between students.

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Post time 2006-3-17 02:13:41 |Display all floors

This is a bit off topic; however, it may still give some good information to the boys and girls who just graduated from colleges.

In China, we have talked about “catch up” for decades but still catching up. But personally I feel the “catch up” is quite easy. When I joint a multinational years ago, I did have something need to catch up, but not many. After half or one year of “catch up”, I did catch up with my colleagues. The best thing I learned during the “catch up” was utilizing the knowledge base by paying few hundred dollars a years, learn from colleagues, learn from service companies, and attend few workshops.

It was not a tough try.

Many Chinese who work oversea experienced the same thing that they need a sort of catch up, but it is quite easy.

But, what happen to entire China industry? Why the “catch up” is so tough?

Well, I do feel the problem is ourselves. As I have mentioned above, so far, Chinese companies, professional have not realize yet there is a very easy way to update knowledge so that all Chinese companies, engineers, scientists can stand with the western professionals in the same level. It is so easy, but they have not realized yet.

The other problem is the old thinking. I do not know where it came from but it is still a fixed thinking that Chinese companies should not utilize foreign material or equipment. And actually, the state run companies do have no access to the materials, equipment available overseas.

A simple example, in the industry I am working on, few different equipments need high quality rubber, but the best rubber only produce from a German company. So all the companies over the world buy the rubber from the German company but Chinese companies. The Chinese companies only use Chinese rubber, which is not qualified at all, so that the equipments of course not qualified for many tough operations. It turns out that the relevant operations in China have to be reduced in scale, or simply impossible.

A little rubber slow down the whole operations, is it worthy? Of course not, but the Chinese companies are still doing so.

I had asked many people, include my brother, who is chief engineer in a big machine company, - why your products are still not as good quality as Japanese ones? My brother told me, the major reason is, the entire China industrial level is behind Japanese companies, so the parts available in China are not as good as Japanese ones. This is out of their control. But by the design and the manufacturing, they are nothing behind Japanese companies.

Well, this goes back to the example I mentioned above – Chinese parts. Why don’t purchase the good quality parts from foreign companies? A simple reason – the state run companies are not allowed to do so.
So, the Chinese machine manufacturers have to wait until the Chinese part suppliers catch up to the Japanese ones. How many part suppliers? My brother told me – close to 100. So they have to wait until the 100 Chinese part companies catch up.

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Post time 2006-3-27 14:58:09 |Display all floors

All ours fault

It is not the system's fault. It's ours. Because we are the people who stick in the current system without doing any effort of improving it by doing our own job better. For example, some professors complain about the system without doing their researching and teaching job in a responsible attitude, most students complain the system without studying hard on their major, many researchers complain the system without trying to advice the government of changing the situation, we regular people complain the system without trying to do some creative job in another complained system that we are involved in. Any system is formed by people and used by people, it's changes surely depends on people, so the systems's fault is the people's fault. What we need to do is to first realize this point and find a way of improving the complained areas in our most efforts, especially those areas that ourselves belong to.

[ Last edited by cedriczhao at 2006-3-27 03:00 PM ]

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