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Post time 2006-2-16 12:08:03 |Display all floors

Pretty damn stupid!

The US put a bunch of irresponsible kids in charge of the prison. This demonstrates how poorly the US government had prepared themselves for the invasion of a place our government had no business getting involved in the way they did.

At the end of the first Gulf War, there were thousands of Iraqi warriors who had surrendered. Their surrender was more a reflection of their disbelief in their leader than in the fear of dying.

The failure of the US to recognize what was in the minds of the Iraqi people is typical of the lack of genuine concern and empathy of the US leadership, I think.

It would have made much more sense to have taken the surrendered Iraqi warriors from the first Gulf War and organized them, equip them and provide them with some training and logistical support and let them go back within their own country and change things to suit their own needs. And that is just one alternative scenario to the lack of planning and knee-jerk response that the US government finally did employ.

Of course, that really wouldn't address the underlying reasons for why the US government went to war with Iraq, would it?



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Post time 2006-2-16 12:09:28 |Display all floors

Balance?

Indeed the US employed the basest set of American humanity to oversee Iraqi prisoners. These guys were part of the National Guard -- a bunch of losers who joined the Guard to collect extra income for hanging out together one weekend per month to sweep the floor and shoot the breeze.

So, but what of the old Chinese culture that sought balance -- shouldn't China Daily also have put the pictures of beheaded Westerners?

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Post time 2006-2-16 17:56:30 |Display all floors

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Pretty damn stupid!

The US put a bunch of irresponsible kids in charge of the prison



They are acting under orders  88, this came from the top
those in real charge of the White House whom I have
mentioned so often in this forum.

"irresponsible kids" still fear the military discipline and no
way would they do this if they thought it was against USA
policy.

It is part of a stupid war with Islam, which was triggered
by USA hegemony in the middle east

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Post time 2006-2-16 18:26:52 |Display all floors

The deliverers of " justice and liberty ' ??

A picture is worth a thousand words. These photos will condemn the USA forever and a day. These are the deliverers of " democracy, liberty and justice " the world has been told over and over again ? If this is justice and freedom and humanity , give us brutality, wantoness and subnormal behaviour !

Confucius said " An army is judged by the actions of its buck privates ".

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Post time 2006-2-16 18:31:33 |Display all floors

New photos of Abu Ghraib abuse surface

The photos show what HUMANS do to other humans. The nationality does not matter. You can replace Japanese for German or  American or Chinese  or any country you care to mention. That is the essential point to realise.

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Post time 2006-2-17 03:10:31 |Display all floors

So the nationalty DOESN"T matter now ?

Originally posted by adamsmith at 2006-2-16 18:31
The photos show what HUMANS do to other humans. The nationality does not matter. You can replace Japanese for German or  American or Chinese  or any country you care to mention. That is the essenti ...

Dear adam,

Unfortunately it does. It did when Saddam did nasty things to his people and that is why he was invaded. It did when Iran took American hostages in Tehran all those years ago and that is why they are still in the " axis of evil " and it did when 9.11 happened whe  all Islam is made responsible for that Saudi act. It seems to matter only when it suits the Americans to nominate events which ' matter " ! In those instances, as in contrast to Abu Ghraib (twice ), Guantanamo, rendition and out-sourced torture, they are evil ,inhumane and requiring regime change. When Americans are found to be the perpetrators then the whole rhetoric of "only  some rogue elements, a one-off or that every effort will be made to bring them to trial " are trundled out to white wash, cleanse and cover-up. It is a fig leaf that is insufficient ; the nasty bits are too large and too extensive to hide. The decent thing to do is for the American leadership to stand up like a man, own up,bring the culprits to justice, apologise and compensate. To ensure that this dastardly acts will never be repeated is the minimum way of contrition. Let us all be reminded that such revelations are made possible by high minded Americans at the grass root level; not the authorities who have known about these crimes for years and tried every which means to put a solid lid on them . Shame shame shame.

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