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Post time 2007-5-20 16:59:40 |Display all floors
We are talking about Abu Ghraib

Originally posted by irishinuk at 2007-5-20 08:53
"Many have been tortured to death" - I believe you may be mixing up the Guantanamo Bay detention system with the Abu Ghraib scandal. I have seen no evidence (to date) of anyone being tort ...




Chilling new evidence of the brutal regime at Iraqi prison
GETHIN CHAMBERLAIN DEFENCE CORRESPONDENT

THE United States prison guard holds a snake up to the camera: "This is a sand viper," she says. "One bite will kill you in six hours. We’ve already had two prisoners die of it, but who cares? That’s two less for me to worry about."

By her own admission, she was a fearsome guard. The prisoners were scared of her, and she had been in trouble for throwing stones at them.

"We actually shot two prisoners today," she says. "One got shot in the chest for swinging a pole against our people on the feed team. One got shot in the arm. We don’t know if the one we shot in the chest is dead yet."

She filmed her video diary while serving as a guard at the Abu Ghraib prison near Baghdad, scene of the abuse scandal that has rocked the US armed forces, and at Camp Bucca, in southern Iraq.

"I hate it here. I want to come home. I want to be a civilian again," she says. The film was to be aired on US television last night.


  1. http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=542742004&format=print
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If these sick neanderthals can bring themselves to film some of their atrocities then how much was not filmed?

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Post time 2007-5-20 17:11:42 |Display all floors
Originally posted by frothow at 2007-5-20 07:31
I counted only 19 pictures of abuse from American soldiers out of hundreds of prisoners captured . I conclude that these" poor "19 people have a lot to do with terrorism against America a ...



In Torture Case Against Rumsfeld, Lawyers Cite “Widespread Pattern” of Abuse, Need for Accountability

WASHINGTON - The American Civil Liberties Union and Human Rights First today argued before a federal court that Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld should be held accountable for the torture and abuse of detainees in U.S. military custody.

The ACLU and Human Rights First filed the lawsuit in March 2005 on behalf of nine innocent civilians who were detained by the United States military in Iraq and Afghanistan. While in U.S. custody, the men were subjected to abuse, torture and other cruel and degrading treatment, including severe and repeated beatings, cutting with knives, sexual humiliation and assault, mock executions, death threats, and restraint in contorted and excruciating positions. All of the men were released without charge.

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  1. http://www.aclu.org/safefree/torture/27643prs20061208.html
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What about all the CDs that the US politicians saw at the pentagon but blocked from general release as they thought that it would incite anti-American feelings?
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Post time 2007-5-20 17:17:56 |Display all floors
Question: Is torture part of the American psyche?


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  1. http://www.infoshop.org/prisons/public_html/article.php?story=20051115154023420
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Widespread Torture Exists in US Prisons


Far from the aberration painted by the Bush Administration,
to find horrendous examples of torture in U.S. society, one
need look no further than America's prisons.

PHILADELPHIA -- November 11 -- Far from the aberration
painted by the Bush Administration, to find horrendous
examples of torture in U.S. society, one need look no
further than America's prisons.

On Monday, the President said in response to criticism of
reported secret CIA prisons that handle terrorism suspects,
"We [in the United States] do not torture." However, torture
in American prisons is frighteningly widespread.

"The wall of silence that exists around prisons, prisoners
and the use of torture in our criminal justice system must
come down," states Bonnie Kerness, Prison Watch coordinator
for the American Friends Service Committee (AFSC) which has
been tracking such abuses for decades. "As a human rights
advocate, I receive testimonies of brutality, humiliation,
physical and sexual abuse from men, women and children in
prisons."

So widespread are the practices and human rights violations
that major human rights groups have all reported on the
pattern. The problem is so pervasive that the United Nations
Committee on Torture has cited the United States as a human
rights violator -- noting egregious violations, including
the use of electric stun belts and restraint chairs on
prisoners, prison chain gangs, and sexual assault of female
prisoners.

"We receive reports from people being forced to live in
prolonged isolation for ten even twenty years, being abused
with devices of torture such as stun belts or restraint
chairs," Kerness states. "We hear from women being forced to
engage in sexual acts. We hear from children as young as 12
being placed in isolation, saying that 'if they don't beat
you physically then they mentally abuse you.'"

Abuse in American Prisons. Think the horrors of Abu Ghraib
or Guantanamo Bay can't happen here? Think again. Here are
some real examples:

Prison guards in a California jail put an inmate in a bath
so hot it boiled 30% of the skin off his body. The use of
chain gangs, sexual assaults, and racially motivated torture
and ill treatment by police and prison guards has been
widely cited. An increasing percentage of the U.S. prison
population lives in some form of extended enforced
isolation, placed in a cage the size of your bathroom for
months and even years.

"Imagine being placed in what is literally a human warehouse
where you will stay 24 hours a day, day in and day out, year
in and year out," Kerness describes. "In the more
progressive units, you may be allowed into a tiny bare
concrete yard for exercise twice a week. Mail and reading
material are censored. When you leave your cage, you are
strip-searched; this often includes a humiliating anal
probe. You are shackled around your waist and handcuffed.
You are entirely under the control of guards who carry long,
black clubs they refer to as 'nigger beaters.'"

An inmate from Wallens Ridge State Prison, Big Stone Gap,
Virginia, states: "I was strapped down to [four] point
restraint . . . I've never in my life been strapped to a bed
-- it's terrible . . . being strapped down and under
circumstances of helplessness and officers coming in the
cell while I'm strapped down displaying their racism --
saying, 'We hate niggers. If it was up to us you['d] be
hung.' To say the least I was . . . scared. I would have
preferred the beat-down -- instead of the mental torture I
was put through."

Prisons are one of the largest growth industries in the
United States. While the United States has 5 percent of the
world's population, it holds an astounding 25 percent of the
world's prisoner population.

"Reports of torture devices in prison largely come from the
isolation units, called 'control units'," adds Tonya
McClary, national director of the AFSC criminal justice
program. "Torture devices commonly used in U.S. prisons are
four-point restraints, restraint hoods, belts and beds, stun
grenades, belts and guns, tethers, waist and leg chains and
air tasers."

Add to this the U.N. treaty positions on the racially biased
death penalty, abuses involving the mentally ill, prison
labor, children's rights and the shocking treatment of
people in Immigration and Naturalization Service detention
centers.

"U.S. prisoners are mostly poor and working-class people who
need jobs and education," McClary concludes.

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Available Spokespersons


Bonnie Kerness, AFSC Prison Watch coordinator. Bonnie has
been active in the Civil Rights movement since the 1960s.
She saw Black children in the South being hosed by police
and bitten by police dogs when all they wanted was to go to
school; she has witnessed the death of activists at the
hands of police, state troopers and the National Guard. By
the time she was twenty in the early 60s and living in
Tennessee she had become an activist and organizer. Her work
with the American Friends Service Committee Criminal Justice
Program dates from 1976.

Oskar Castro, AFSC Youth and Militarism program. Oskar works
to educate young people about the risks, horrors and
misconceptions of military life. "GIs returning from Iraq
report that methods used in United States military prisons
and detention centers mirror the questionable tactics used
in America's prison system," Castro states. "That indicates
the problem is more a part of our cultural make-up than most
care to admit."


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There is a report on torture in the U.S. prisons up at the
AFSC web site
http://www.afsc.org
(Prison Reports located at http://tinyurl.com/8oklx )

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Post time 2007-5-20 19:39:43 |Display all floors

The slippery eel again at work.

Emu,

We are talking about " prisoners " in a war , are we not ? As usual, you can't wait to scrape a 2005 item related to some Chinese local police actions. I suppose you would declare that there is never Australian police brutality and the illegal detention centre ill-treatment of refugees ?

The Abu Ghraib inhabitants are just random capture of people from down the streets. Some may be criminals, but some may not be. To beat the hell out of everyone and to humilate them with menstrual blood is beyond the pale. Not the sort of behaviour of civilised men in uniforms, so proudly spouting patriotism and fighting for justice and fairplay.

I am beginning to wonder what standard of English you possess emu. The muddying and muddling is uncanny .

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Post time 2007-5-20 21:18:37 |Display all floors
is it safe to say that there were far more torture committed in abu ghraib, only that they were not recorded in pictures.the torture might be continuing right now but this time they see to it that no one is recording with his camera.

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Post time 2007-5-20 22:48:31 |Display all floors
Originally posted by reyquer at 2007-5-20 21:18
is it safe to say that there were far more torture committed in abu ghraib, only that they were not recorded in pictures.the torture might be continuing right now but this time they see to it that  ...


All British and American soldiers are now searched before they go back to the US or UK on leave to make sure that they don't have any pictures or videos on them!
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Post time 2007-5-21 01:18:17 |Display all floors

Reply #69 changabula's post

It really is getting worse in Iraq have you seen the new US embassy.  Skyrocketing costs and this is for the "world's largest embassy" who can afford the security camera for the "staff".

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