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Hmmmm, not quite Whampoa....
"Earlier you rejected the idea of a “collected West” but you spoke, in your last post, defending US’s brainwashing as a “we”, do you not see that you have “contradicted” yourself?
For your information, in my last post, I have actually pulled out a small part at the end where I said (accurately diagnosed) you guys are one and the same - “you cronies make no difference to us – pot and kettle."
So with this, can we now safely conclude that we, Chinese, are not wrong to “talk” to you all as a “collected West”? "
Absolutely not! How can you say you have proven anything at all? How have you followed any logical path to reach that conclusion? You are claiming that because I disagreed with your assertion that Western governments brainwash their own people then we must all be the same, how is that at all rational? If I said to you that the King of Tonga regularly beats all his subjects every Friday at 2:00pm and you disagreed would that mean that China and Tonga are in fact one and the same? It is the same line of reasoning as you are following. I already said that as far as nations go we are quite close with the US and Britain based on a number of shared values and political principles, that does not make us the same. In fact, a whole library of books could be written on the differences between western nations. I think that it is more likely that you are simply to lazy to bother making the distinction, it is easier to lump us all together instead of having to put thought into which nationality you are dealing with at any given time.
Of course I can use the term "we" in the discussion. It does not signify any permanent connection. If someone was to ask me "What are you and John doing today" and I replied "We are going to the pub to watch the Rugby" that is fine because it denotes a convenient grouping for that time, it doesn't imply there is a permanent connection between the two and that they must be referred to collectively forever from that point on.