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Post time 2004-10-10 06:46:09 |Display all floors

Praise

I praise Japan for being good friends.  A good democratic friend. You know we did not start off that way. We were enimies.

It was nasty back in the 1940's. Maybe China can learn a lesson here.

Forgive - (Don't Forget) - move on

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Post time 2004-10-10 16:57:14 |Display all floors

good friends

http://www.cnd.org/njmassacre/page1.html

http://people.bu.edu/wwildman/WeirdWildWeb/courses/theo1/projects/2001_chen/forgotten_holocaust.htm

http://www.ngensis.com/jap4-e.htm

http://www.ww2pacific.com/atrocity.html

http://www.marywood.edu/www2/prweb/press/archive/2000/april/nanking.html

http://yarchive.net/mil/japanese_atrocities.html

http://www.wellesley.edu/Polisci/wj/China/Nanjing/nanjing3.html

enough?

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Post time 2004-10-11 12:32:50 |Display all floors

suffering...

Believe it or not, when my grandfather came to the United States, there were signs on the store fronts that said 搉o dogs or Irish allowed? Much persecution went on in late 1800抯 and early 1900抯 against the Irish.
In 1960 America elected its first Irish president and many Irish are in congress and the senate today. They are not elected by the Irish only but by the Chinese, German, Italians etc. that are in America. We have Japanese and Chinese elected officials.
I guess what I am trying to say is, by holding on to this anger, it is difficult to move on.
If you feel the Japanese are not giving you a good enough apology, just say I forgive you anyway and move on. Karma has a funny way of working it out.

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Post time 2004-10-11 17:56:31 |Display all floors

It sounds fishy to me.

" Irish and dogs not allowed" ? Where and when? You have been in the sun too long, my friend. Tell us more; it is sounding much  more interesting than the usual fishy stories like ' the big one which got away'.
Reconciliation with Japan is the ardent wish of most Chinese but it is always going to be a two-way street. Both sides have to put all the facts on the table, chew over them and work out a compromise acceptable to all. It is as much a cross for the present and future generations of Japanese to bear as it is for the Chinese to hate.
Don't forget now fisherman, I will be anxiously waiting for the facts supporting your incredible claim about the Irish. It is better than any fishy stories to date.

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Post time 2004-10-11 17:56:35 |Display all floors

It sounds fishy to me.

" Irish and dogs not allowed" ? Where and when? You have been in the sun too long, my friend. Tell us more; it is sounding much  more interesting than the usual fishy stories like ' the big one which got away'.
Reconciliation with Japan is the ardent wish of most Chinese but it is always going to be a two-way street. Both sides have to put all the facts on the table, chew over them and work out a compromise acceptable to all. It is as much a cross for the present and future generations of Japanese to bear as it is for the Chinese to hate.
Don't forget now fisherman, I will be anxiously waiting for the facts supporting your incredible claim about the Irish. It is better than any fishy stories to date.

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Post time 2004-10-11 21:49:02 |Display all floors

dogs

That story about "no dogs or Irish" I heard about and will try to find somewhere it is writeen. Check thsi out-

"Even as the boat was docking, these immigrants to America learned that life in America was going to be a battle for survival. Hundreds of runners, usually large greedy men, swarmed aboard the ship grabbing immigrants and their bags trying to force them to their favorite tenement house and then exact an outrageous fee for their services. As the poor immigrant had no means of moving on, they settled in the port of arrival. Almshouses were filled with these Irish immigrants. They begged on every street. One honest immigrant wrote home at the height of the potato famine exodus, "My master is a great tyrant, he treats me as badly as if I was a common Irishman." The writer further added, "Our position in America is one of shame and poverty." No group was considered lower than an Irishman in America during the 1850s."

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