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China demands Canada to release Huawei CFO or break diplomatic tie.   [Copy link] 中文

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Post time 2018-12-16 22:01:46 |Display all floors
wchao37 Post time: 2018-12-16 21:48
The guy has five eyes.

A junior and incompetent operative posting to betray his grade to all...

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Post time 2018-12-16 23:04:21 |Display all floors
emanreus Post time: 2018-12-15 17:18
exactly what I expected from you.
  But have it your way if it makes you happy...
"She is easy to replace" [...] In today's world, no one is irreplaceable


Then allow me to explain.

Companies that have irreplaceable staff, especially in the upper management where the numbers are fewer, are extremely vulnerable.

And that has little to do with the case at hand alone. Certainly in certain industries and in certain times, this kind of things can be expected to happen.

But consider that irreplaceable staff members are no more save from family problems, health reasons, traffic accidents, and the whole plethora of reasons why they may have to leave their jobs, than any other individuals. Even more so, because they often have to travel more frequently than factory workers.

These risks have only increased in China in last decades.

Companies that allow their staff to become irreplaceable are foolish, and I don't think that Huawei wouldn't have a continuity plan made long ago for this kind of scenarios. If not, then the company deserves to go with her.

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Post time 2018-12-17 06:03:36 |Display all floors
emanreus Post time: 2018-12-13 10:59
a]  Washington hasn't opted for the obvious to prosecute Huawei's business units in America, but wa ...

"She will pay a cash deposit of C$7 million, with five local guarantors liable for the remaining C$3 million if she absconds." So she would be a capitalist roader, comrade ?

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Post time 2018-12-17 09:08:10 |Display all floors
Huawei is a China private company and does not report to the US.  

Huawei did not commit any crime on US soil and so should not be leveled any charges by the US department of (in)justice.

Canada and Trudeau signed the new Nafta agreement with Trump and the US; the new agreement contained a poison pill clause. Which Canada had to swallow wholesale so that in arresting Mdm Meng at the request of the US, Canada is showing itself not to be an independent sovereign state but merely a serf to US interests.  Abe Japan should take careful note on what has happened to Canada that can happen to Japan next with consequences worse than that can befall Canada.

Trump's strategist engineered the arm-twisting of Canada to detain Mdm Meng in time for raising the US' hand at the Buenos Aires meet so that Trump can now make an 'offer' to China in exchange for compliance with the US demands that will in the end make China a colony of the US.

Which country can accept such rubbish?

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Post time 2018-12-17 10:58:47 |Display all floors
markwu Post time: 2018-12-17 09:08
Huawei is a China private company and does not report to the US.  

Huawei did not commit any crime  ...
Huawei is a China private company and does not report to the US.  


Perhap's that's why USA is not (so publicly anyway) pursuing legal action against Huawei for the alleged fraud, but Meng in person.

If the banks she allegedly lied to, or their parent organizations, are traded in USA, then those banks have obligations toward US authorities even if the specific branches don't operate on US soil. That would be case with HSBC in Hong Kong for example.

Situation would be same, if a fraud (according to China's laws) occurred in Bank of China branch in USA. I'm sure that China would request to extradite such suspect, from USA or elsewhere. Even (as you say) the crime would not have occurred in China's soil.

In such case, if USA didn't acknowledge the legitimacy of China's request, they may not extradite the person, but China would just as easily grab the person while he or she is visiting some country that does acknowledge the legitimacy of China's request.

This applies especially in cases where alleged crime does not even constitute a crime in the locale where it is made. China does not acknowledge US sanctions against Iran, and China has many things that USA doesn't acknowlegde either.

If someone fraudulenty acquired financing from a foreign branch of Bank of China carry out operations which China considers illegal (for example financing some cult China considers illegal, or some person exiled from China), you can't possibly think China would just ignore it.

Which country can accept such rubbish?


If you decide that USA has no legal grounds against Meng, even if the alleged fraud happened, then you would set a precedent that would cast long shadow in international banking and police cooperation. And then you will have the rubbish flying all over.

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Post time 2018-12-17 13:14:27 |Display all floors
markwu Post time: 2018-12-17 09:08
Huawei is a China private company and does not report to the US.  

Huawei did not commit any crime  ...
Huawei is a China private company and does not report to the US.


That's a fact.  

Huawei did not commit any crime on US soil and so should not be leveled any charges by the US department of (in)justice.


That is the main point.  Canada has no case against Meng under international law, and that's why China demanded release and not just bail bond for Meng.

Canada and Trudeau signed the new Nafta agreement with Trump and the US; the new agreement contained a poison pill clause. Which Canada had to swallow wholesale so that in arresting Mdm Meng at the request of the US, Canada is showing itself not to be an independent sovereign state but merely a serf to US interests.  Abe Japan should take careful note on what has happened to Canada that can happen to Japan next with consequences worse than that can befall Canada.


Yes, in fact all international trade would be impacted if CEOs are subject to this kind of treatment when traveling abroad.  So this is criminal behavior tantamount to premeditated kidnapping that must be countered with overwhelming counter-force.

Trump's strategist engineered the arm-twisting of Canada to detain Mdm Meng in time for raising the US' hand at the Buenos Aires meet so that Trump can now make an 'offer' to China in exchange for compliance with the US demands that will in the end make China a colony of the US.

Which country can accept such rubbish?


The chief should never have accepted Trump's offer to meet at the G20.  He wasn't given good advice -- notice how his entourage during foreign visits has changed.  Yang is a good and trusted diplomat, but I am not sure about his negotiating skills at trade talks with scoundrels -- you have to be equally thick-skinned like Trump is, and Yang was such a righteously good and thin-skinned person that he banged the door shut in the 2010 meeting in Hanoi in which Hillary Clinton participated as Obama's Secretary of State.  

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Post time 2018-12-17 13:42:45 |Display all floors
in the filters, Mark.

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