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Will North Korea, Finally Destroy America?   [Copy link] 中文

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Post time 2017-10-6 12:21:20 |Display all floors
sfphoto Post time: 2017-10-5 23:31
I am sure China will be affected but I am not sure if China will be the "biggest" loser. China has  ...

I note that you write like a military conflict (to degree of war) in Korean Peninsula would be completely between USA and DPRK (and naturally South Korea).

Personally I hope that China would stay neutral, but I don't expect it. However, regardless of what arrangements there are on paper or otherwise between China and DPRK, I think it's 50/50 whether it would side with DPRK or USA. I mean the people that matter, your leaders.

If China let's USA and DPRK sort it out, there is only one way that it will end, and that is complete annihilation of DPRK leadership. What will happen after that (no matter how much global destruction there have been), is that USA and ROK troops will march to Yalu river and start camping. Then they'd rebuild the country and make trillions in progress. China would get part of that.

Unless, of course, China initiates to move its own troops to Korea, even after missing out the battle. That would be political suicide for China in global arena.

The other scenario, where China takes a side with either party earlier in the war isn't necessarily much better. China would then be active participant in the war.

Should China storm to help DPRK, it would again be in international dead-end, because DPRK's aggression (whether they'd be actions or reactions) would include such methods that international community would not tolerate. They'd use artillery against South Korean's civilian population and cities, not to mention possibly nuclear or chemical weapons. China would be held resposibly for that alongside DPRK. Also should the North win, China would not gain anything. It would just be left resposible for rebuilding the south that is in ruins by then - certainly DPRK will not have means to do it.

On the other hand, if China will help US to a quicker victory, the financial crisis that you expect will not be very big and will not hurt US-China relations, quite the opposite. Also more than likely, Chinese forces will remain in northern Korea even after the war is over and Korea is united under Seoul. Then it could be China that gets to make trillions by rebuilding the country. I think that in case of war, this is the best scenario - though the same end result could be achieved without any war.

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Post time 2017-10-7 00:28:21 |Display all floors
Jaaja Post time: 2017-10-6 12:21
I note that you write like a military conflict (to degree of war) in Korean Peninsula would be com ...

You miss my point: I wasn't talking about military strategy but about the economic crisis that would ensue in the event of hostilities between the North and South. The USA can't prevent global financial markets from reacting to the resumption of Korean War 2.0 which would obviously affect South Korea but also Japan. They're not Iraq or Afghanistan which have very little effect on the global economy.

China's financial markets are under State-ownership and control and would thus be insulated from the expected turmoil in the global financial markets. The electronics supply-chain which is centered in East Asia will surely be disrupted but so would the international trading system as both South Korea and Japan are major exporting countries. China's losses could be in the hundreds of billions but the financial losses in the Capitalist World will easily reach trillions.

THAT -- not the massive loss of lives -- is what's preventing Korean War 2.0.

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Post time 2017-10-7 21:07:07 |Display all floors
sfphoto Post time: 2017-10-7 00:28
You miss my point: I wasn't talking about military strategy but about the economic crisis that wou ...
USA can't prevent global financial markets from reacting to the resumption of Korean War 2.0 which would obviously affect South Korea but also Japan


I agree that USA cannot, but my point is that China can.

China (surprisingly perhaps?) allying with US against DPRK would bring some new hope for future world peace (beyond Korean crisis), and that alone may be enough to counter most of short-term financial losses.

Don't forget that whoever wins that war (and it will not be DPRK), will have to take a major role in rebuilding Korean peninsula, and that alone is a source for lot of business. Not to mention the further rebuilding and integration of northern Korea to international community and global market. The region would see double (if not triple) digit growth for decades to come.

I'm quite certain that many well-prepared capitalists (as well as "socialists" in China's industries) would risk losing millions to get their hands on the billions to come from that.

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Post time 2017-10-8 02:54:05 |Display all floors
This post was edited by edisonone at 2017-10-7 11:57
Jaaja Post time: 2017-10-5 20:21
I note that you write like a military conflict (to degree of war) in Korean Peninsula would be com ...



We never pick fights with our neighbours, nor do we pick fights with beings from other parts of the cosmos, it's our neighbours and it's these beings from afar who insist on picking fights with us.  Kim hadn't picked any fights with us.

Why should we stand idly by if this friend and neighbour of ours are being atracked by a pack of wild dogs, a pack of wolves, pack of hyenas, a cavern full of blood sucking Count Dracula, and, by swarms of zita and eBola infected pests known as mosquitos?

Putin's a killer. This was the claim made by Fox News journalist; Bill O'Reilly during his recent interview with Donald Trump. Trump's reply came in the form of a simple question. What, you think our country's so innocent?

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Post time 2017-10-8 14:25:57 |Display all floors
edisonone Post time: 2017-10-8 02:54
We never pick fights with our neighbours, nor do we pick fights with beings from other parts of t ...

Your country has history of meddling in your neighbour's affairs just as good as any other country. In Korea, Vietnam and Cambodia for example. Your country may not pick quarrels as directly as say USA, but regardless you have managed to put your country in the negative field on many occassions. No other remarkable countriy continues to be under arms embargo by so many other nations for using military against civilian population.

Besides, the contradiction here is, that in past during conflicts in those counties I mentioned above, China had somewhat understandable reason to meddle. At that time, cold war was still going on and Chinese leaders, just like others, kept thinking they could spread their own ideals. In that way, China's past actions have served China's own perceived interest for the future that could have been possible (but wasn't in the end).

Now I argue that with DPRK China does not see, or ignores to acknowledge, what its own best interest is. IF there is another war in Korea, and China does anythng other than side with South Korea and its allies (whether that's siding with DPRK or not take sides at all), China would lose more and gain less than if it chose otherwise.

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Post time 2017-10-8 17:55:18 |Display all floors
Jaaja Post time: 2017-10-8 14:25
Your country has history of meddling in your neighbour's affairs just as good as any other country ...

re; Now I argue that with DPRK China does not see, or ignores to acknowledge, what its own best interest is. IF there is another war in Korea, and China does anythng other than side with South Korea and its allies (whether that's siding with DPRK or not take sides at all), China would lose more and gain less than if it chose otherwise.

Go and apply for a job as a cryptologist for the war mongers...
Pay is not that bad

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