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Post time 2016-4-25 14:07:49 |Display all floors
This post was edited by leiztorc at 2016-4-26 18:25

One would have thought that the first country to jump with joy over Brexit is US.

It would have given US the window to bring Britain into its ambit entirely. After all US has always touted Britain as its "Special Ally" and with this everyone would have thought US would have responded with a "Don't worry pal, whatever you decide, we are there for you". It doesn't ring this way though, quite obviously, even for a novice.

Instead what Britain got is a threat. An indirect one where US tells Britain that it is not prepared to support Britain in any way if Britain suffers from its Brexit even though in the long run Brexit is good for Britain.

One wonders why is Britain's EU membership so important to US? Afterall in this world of 190 or more nations many are not part of EU and yet they make it, so why not Britain a nation with success far reaching than any other nation has achieved.

1. Is a multilateral world so detrimental to the US? Already faced with intense competition from a Germany led EU, China and Russia, a Britain that becomes free leads one further competition to surface, possibly a resurgent British Commonwealth that's strongly supported by Canada, Australia, New Zealand and possibly a stronger Britain that see positive Ireland-England rapprochement.

2. Could US lose its proxy in EU? With Britain in EU, the US has always been able to tout the special US-UK relationship to influence UK to speak on its behalf inside EU. Then, when the world was solely dependent on US, UK has no option but to agree to a subservient role. But with a fast developing multilateral world taking shape, UK is no longer hostage to such a situation. By continually demanding UK to play US' special representative, UK is making undue special sacrifices that will further deteriorate its global standings.

3.  If this world is heading towards a multilateral world, could UK be thinking for itself,  if it will miss a golden opportunity to become powerful again by itself without having to stay under US' shadows perpetually, which will strengthen a multilateral world over one which US hegemons over entirely? The pound sterling is already a currency in the IMF basket, London is a renowned financial centre and Canada has always cherished its relationship with England. Australia, New Zealand and India are likely to throw their support behind a resurgent UK that's independent of US. US' global support may erode further even if these nations as they support UK continues to maintain their good relationships with the US.

4. Is US reluctant to help play a role in financing UK should the need arises? Currently this burden rest largely with the EU to some extent though China has helped. If US is prepared to fund UK in case of a need, where in case here doesn't mean a "will", any trade negotiation shouldn't pose a problem. Its odd that when the smaller UK is not worried, the humongous world number one economy, US is.

5. If Britain leaves UK with positive results for both UK and EU, that may spur more divergent policies from currency to trade to security to migration. Is US afraid that it may not be able to control all of them effectively? Like for instance English or Europeans may not want any part in bombing another country with not a single good reason into the oblivion so that US can sell its weapons to bolster its weaponry industry while leaving others to clean its mess or suffer some negative consequences like people who are displaced from Afghanistan to Iraq to Libya to Syria.

6. Is US worried too that a successful Brexit may encourage others to become more independent, instead of abiding by Washington's decision making?

But US' warning certainly didn't come at a good time when UK is celebrating its Queen's 90th birthday. What a lousy present from the US for a much touted partner.

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Post time 2016-4-25 20:20:09 |Display all floors
Obama doesn't speak for the majority of Americans on this subject, just the political establishment. Our so-called 'special relationship ' is a joke-we're special only so long as it suits them.
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Post time 2016-4-25 22:02:52 |Display all floors
Long Story Short with Obama's Involvement:  Scotland's Nuclear Submarine Bases

It has been made very clear by the folks in Scotland they want no part of them if they succeed from the British Commonwealth.  Further, they have been very clear that they want to stay in the EU if England votes to get out of the the EU.  Those issues hold some significance in the long term for the stability of NATO.
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Post time 2016-4-25 22:47:41 |Display all floors
1. UK and US do share the full Anglo-Saxon version of "western culture". Naturally US wishes UK to continue to provide that Anglo-Saxon influence on EU. 2. Even without UK, the EU is now sufficiently-committed to "liberal democracy" (look-up the definition) to be a permanent US ally. 3. Nevertheless a UK exit will further weaken the EU. (The reasons for the current weakness of the EU are a whole different subject).
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Post time 2016-4-26 03:13:14 |Display all floors
This post was edited by TheHermit at 2016-4-26 03:40

The UK only joined the EU to ensure that it never posed a threat to US hegemony. The UK sabotaged every effort the Europeans made towards unity. Moreover, the UK supported the rapid expansion of the EU into Eastern Europe, saddling it with huge financial commitments, not to mention the promotion of Turkish membership. The EU was growing in a manner not acceptable to the powers that be in the seventies.... The Welfare state model of the Nordic countries was being adopted, throughout the EU, as an alternative to socialism. This was anathema to those who seek full world dominance, and the British public suffered, unnecessarily in my view, to join the EU in order to destroy it. Back in the eighties, I closely watched the appointments Britain made to European institutions, which confirmed my fears. It was treason..... Britain was joining a club it wished to destroy, without tangible benefits to its own citizens, but for international capitalism and the bankers.
To answer the question "Why the US is opposed to Brexit" because the EU still exists...... and even though all its institutions have been subverted, recovery, albeit remote is still possible. The US and its masters wants Britain to remain within the EU, until it can report back to the US "Mission Accomplished!!! The EU is no more".
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Post time 2016-4-26 04:20:43 |Display all floors
This post was edited by St_George at 2016-4-26 04:23
seneca Post time: 2016-4-25 21:35
And you do not speak for the majority of Englanders.

And you don't speak for ANYbody except yourself.  The polls are very close and could go either way, the ' dont knows ' will be crucial to the vote.
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