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Post time 2015-11-20 19:31:33 |Display all floors
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"Hong Kong people enjoy a high degree of autonomy" Autonomy is autonomy, it's not democracy as I asked. There are several autonomous regions of China, none of them are truly democratic either.

"Hong Kong is governed by Hong Kong people." Really ? The "one country" part of the "two systems" deal means that Hong Kong is part of means that Beijing and the Basic Law have ultimate sway about the governance of HK. The people of HK can demonstrate and protest as much as they like in the streets of their city but the politicians and bureaucrats of Beijing can forestall any of their demands for real democracy. More simply put, if democracy actually did exist in HongKong then the people wouldn't be loudly protesting for it to be introduced.

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Post time 2015-11-21 00:51:44 |Display all floors
Newtown Post time: 2015-11-20 19:31
"Hong Kong people enjoy a high degree of autonomy" Autonomy is autonomy, it's not democracy as I a ...

It's a process of realizing democracy step by step. Ask anyone in HK whether they are enjoying a relative free and democratic society and they all will give a resounding yes. It's the first time in history and no bloodshed were involved as compared to many other entities which makes one of the most enviable and admired city in the world.

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Post time 2015-11-21 09:55:08 |Display all floors
Kbay Post time: 2015-11-20 17:32
Anyone under twenty in HK will be able to converse fluently in Putonghua, because the dialect has  ...

HK returns to motherland in 2047 ? Isn't it already back in the fold since cutting ties with UK ?

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Post time 2015-11-21 09:59:13 |Display all floors
ahthian Post time: 2015-11-21 00:51
It's a process of realizing democracy step by step. Ask anyone in HK whether they are enjoying a r ...

"a process of realizing democracy step by step" is a polite way of saying that democracy does not yet exist in Hong Kong. Since "a journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step" it's going to be a hell of a long time before all the steps have been taken for HK to reach true democracy, if ever.

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Post time 2015-11-21 10:00:24 |Display all floors
Kbay Post time: 2015-11-21 08:46
The Chinese national football team is rubbish!If they can't handle a foreign set of mediocre HK team ...

Maybe the Chinese football team is made up of players are all bananas.

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Post time 2015-11-21 10:57:36 |Display all floors
seneca Post time: 2015-11-19 10:16
"...don't discourse them from ...;"

Sorry, I can't make head nor tail out of your post. "To disc ...

sorry , it should be "discourage"

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Post time 2015-11-21 12:47:17 |Display all floors
Newtown Post time: 2015-11-21 09:59
"a process of realizing democracy step by step" is a polite way of saying that democracy does not  ...

It's a small city and so you can't expect things in a big way overnight. But it's a step in the right direction since HK is now out of the shadows of colonialism and is enjoying both east and west flavors. More important is that it can still function as a major financial and shipping center, and everything hasn't changed much in terms of its economic system and lifestyle where HK people hasn't experienced any disruptions in their livelihood and are still contributing to the healthy development of their home as well as deepening the integration with the mainland so that each can maintain a mutually effective and advantageous relationship.

Hong Kong has no natural resources, and to survive, the people work hard using their talent and entrepreneurship as has been their traditional way, even without democracy. To this day, it is still a topnotch capitalist enclave where investors all over the world set up headquarters and run all sorts of commercial and financial operations not excluding taking advantage of Hong Kong's dynamics to bridge themselves with China resulting in a colossal mutually profitable tripartite. Democracy is only a tiny part of what the locals truly require as it is more important to really be able to make ends meet and fend off any external elements that could easily strangle a resourceless but populous place such as natural disasters, or foreign invasion as occurred in the last century.

What is interesting is that even without democracy, Hong Kong still is working wonders, all for the simple reason that there is strong limitless backing of the mainland, the military protection afforded, and the political stability there that enhances Hong Kong's stature and prominence  in the international competitive environment. Of course there is a minority who has a different opinion, and did show it last year by staging a raucous and ill-conceived "take-over" that ended miserably and fractured the society instead of bettering it. A huge lesson has been learned however, and the stage is set for a political reform package that fully encompasses the aspirations and needs of the people of Hong Kong.

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