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May We Live in Un-Interesting Times?

Popularity 9Viewed 2760 times 2017-1-30 01:51 |System category:Life| Trump, Interesting, Times, Xenophobic, Boxer

It was been interesting to watch the world in the wake of Donald Trump winning the U.S. Presidential Election, from the ‘Macro’ to ‘Micro’ Level.  More often than naught, I am reminded of the old Chinese Curse, “May you live in Interesting Times,” with the amount of ‘wailing and gnashing of teeth’ that has been displayed by various individuals and groups in and out of the United States.  However, pose a simple question:  What Qualifies as “Un-Interesting Times” for all people around the world?  Make no mistake, the idea that there would be one group or one leader that is going to satisfy 1 Billion People, let alone the entire world’s human population is laughable at best and delusional at worst.

 

So… what does the next two years hold for the world, since the Executive and Legislature are ‘held by the same party’ in the U.S.?  If the history of the CCP in P.R. China is used for examples – some will think of events like the ‘Great Leap Forward’, while others will think of the ‘Cultural Revolution’.  Others will probably speak glowingly of ‘the Long March’ or the People’s Volunteer Army coming to the rescue of the DPRK.  For me, however, I am reminded of an all too common theme that has held true to ‘5,000 year history’ of China (Warring States, Imperial, Republic, and People’s Republic)… a pining for the ‘Good Old Days’ that were never there to begin with, followed by wave of xenophobic behavior that leave scars upon the populace for decades, if not centuries to come.  Yet, what is in store for the People’s Republic – now that it is a position it is not accustomed to, being the “outsider with an invested interest?”

 

Whether the powers to be in Beijing like it or not, they have to deal with not only ‘the Donald’ in the White House, but an opposition that is starting to harken back to the beings of its own formation.  At stake is its ability to show to the Chinese public, and the world, that it will still have influence and more over still get what it is owed.  Yet, options are limited.  It is not like it can intervene in a manner similar to what happened in the Boxer Rebellion. More cynical ‘old China hands’ may point to the efforts made in Africa and elsewhere, with the various methods used to ‘Gain Friends and Influence People’.  But make no mistake, the entire world has been shaken of its illusions of ‘Harmony’ and now has to deal with the ‘Interesting Times’ that have been thrust upon them.  It will be only those that show some semblance of True Harmony that the rest will give credence to, in hopes of living in peaceful, ‘un-interesting’ times.


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Reply Report HailChina! 2017-1-31 10:19
Does a child write that stupid comic? Bill Waterson is not a child.

The 90s were pretty uninteresting times. The Cold War ended and there was really no war and everything was stable, nobody hated the government and we were not all terrified of terrorists. It was great.
Reply Report tradervic 2017-1-31 11:12
Hm... HC, there was the WTC Bombing in 1993, the OKC Bombing in 1995, not to mention a good deal of events around the world - so in the words of Billy Joel: "The world been burning as long as it has been turning." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFTLKWw542g
Reply Report tradervic 2017-1-31 11:18
HailChina!: Does a child write that stupid comic? Bill Waterson is not a child.

The 90s were pretty uninteresting times. The Cold War ended and there was really  ...
Context, HC... Context...
Reply Report Mishao 2017-2-1 07:25
Sounds good, less stress.
Reply Report seneca 2017-2-2 12:46
If China actually did have 5'000 years of history, Chinese people would have a chance to realise that nothing is better than the present whilethe futuremay be better or not. But since China does not have 5'000 years of history but rather has a history of one year that has repeated itself ca.3'600 times the Chinese willnot learn from their own history.Will they learn from the U.S.A.?
Reply Report Ted180 2017-2-2 14:44
Perhaps, as the United States becomes more isolated and self-absorbed in its cultural and political struggle, other elements like China and Europe will become more independent. For instance, I think the EU has neglected to make a coordinated approach to Russia. It seems to me that the path to European peace and prosperity is through the integration of Russia into the EU. Perhaps Japan and China will forge a progressive relationship. Japanese know-how would contribute greatly to the modernization of China. A reduction of US influence in the Middle East may motivate Israel to seek peace (a fond hope!).
Reply Report Liononthehunt 2017-2-2 17:56
seneca: If China actually did have 5'000 years of history, Chinese people would have a chance to realise that nothing is better than the present whilethe futu ...
The Korean War, the Vietnam War, the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq, the toppling of Gaddafi regime, which all have cost the US dearly, and plunged both US and the local people into misery. Has the US learnt anything from those strategic and military failures in its history. Apparently not. lol.
Reply Report seneca 2017-2-2 21:43
Ted180: Perhaps, as the United States becomes more isolated and self-absorbed in its cultural and political struggle, other elements like China and Europe wil ...
Ted,
you know that I don't want Russia inside the EU. That said, without Uncle Sam's obnoxious meddling in everyone's private affairs there can be peaceful coexistence and even free trade between the E.U. and Russia. I am in  total support of easier travel between these two regions. But we cannot have such a bully and demographic giant in the E.U. Russia would crush other members.
Reply Report seneca 2017-2-2 21:47
Liononthehunt: The Korean War, the Vietnam War, the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq, the toppling of Gaddafi regime, which all have cost the US dearly, and plunged  ...
What about China in all these conflicts?  The Chinese Communists have never been choirboys.

For example LIBYA: what business did China have o supporting a tyrant against the wishes of the Libyan people? Dot you know  that it was the PEOPLE who toppled him, not the West???

You Chinese only decry that event because 37'000 off your compatriots had to leave Libya...
Reply Report Ted180 2017-2-2 22:28
Russia is a "giant" only in land-area. Not in population or economy. Only 146 million now. Balanced by Germany.
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Reply Report Liononthehunt 2017-2-3 10:49
seneca: What about China in all these conflicts?  The Chinese Communists have never been choirboys.

For example LIBYA: what business did China have o suppor ...
The US's purpose for initiating those ill-fated conflicts was to establish or bolster pro-US governments, which, without fail, all ended in failures, while China's involvement in the Korean War and Vietnam War, all served explicit strategic targets, i.e. maintaining buffer zones for national security, which it has successfully achieved.
Why the US has kept getting itself into those epic, humiliating debacles, because it is incapable of learning from history.

By the way, do you really believe that Gaddafi was ousted by people? No kidding, bro.
Why Russia will not sit on its hands on the Syria issue as it did with Lybia when the US-led bombing of Lybia was launched and tipped the scale on the battlefield? Obviously, Russia learns, and the US doesn't.
Reply Report seneca 2017-2-3 14:31
Liononthehunt: The US's purpose for initiating those ill-fated conflicts was to establish or bolster pro-US governments, which, without fail, all ended in failures,  ...
You have a sharp mind but your mind is a tad too nationalistic which blunts it again.

Do you really consider Korea tobe a "success" from the Chinese point of view? And what about Vietnam?

Nor does Afghanistan strengthen China's deences or strategic interests. Let's face it: China's imperialist behaviour as often creates havoc and injustice to others as it fails to give China a foothold overseas.
Reply Report seneca 2017-2-3 14:35
Liononthehunt: The US's purpose for initiating those ill-fated conflicts was to establish or bolster pro-US governments, which, without fail, all ended in failures,  ...
As for Libya:

All I wish to say is that Muammar Ghaddafi had millions of people  opposing him. His concept of state was compromised from the start; his methods were brutal and Fascist. His erratic behaviour caused instability in the countries next to Libya. He was a prince of international terrorism. He had to betake out.
Reply Report Liononthehunt 2017-2-3 18:26
Please do some research in the history, and be mindful about the times and context of those conflicts ...
I think it is very interesting for you to label China as imperialist, given the arbitrary interference that the US has done in other countries' internal affairs. Does the US have even gotten a foothold in its backyard, i.e. Latin America? The answer is a resounding NO.
Moreover, it is highly hypocritical for the US to point finger at certain regimes, citing tyranny and terrorism as the reasons for attempting to take them out while allying with some nations where the regimes are much more repressive, and human rights records are much worse than that of Iraq and Libya. If you are sufficiently informed, you would have been aware that they have even covertly aided terrorism.

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I have no interest in learning about your nationality, and I won't label you as nationalistic, as being judgmental is certainly against my grain,  but it is apparent that your obsession with China-bashing has palpably dimmed your wits.
Reply Report tradervic 2017-2-4 00:58
Ted180: Perhaps, as the United States becomes more isolated and self-absorbed in its cultural and political struggle, other elements like China and Europe wil ...
We shall Ted, we shall see... real question is:  Will China get paid or not?  With all of the craziness that is Europe, methinks more than a few of those loans are all but worthless.
Reply Report Ted180 2017-2-4 01:34
Liononthehunt: Please do some research in the history, and be mindful about the times and context of those conflicts ...
I think it is very interesting for you to l ...
As usual there's more than one side. The US was woefully in error in Vietnam. It's now obvious Ho Chi Minh was no puppet of China or the USSR. The Afghan affair was a waste. That country is too primitive. The Iraq occupation was bungled - and perhaps Iraq is too fragmented to serve as a modern example of western civilization. Libya was a European project only assisted by the USAF. It failed because of no occupation. Korea was justified and quite siccessful. Only problem is that China is not ending the Kim family dictatorship.
Reply Report Liononthehunt 2017-2-4 18:45
Ted180: As usual there's more than one side. The US was woefully in error in Vietnam. It's now obvious Ho Chi Minh was no puppet of China or the USSR. The Afg ...
Good point on the Kim family, but how? You may have known that they were initially installed by the USSR. Furthermore, have you ever thought about why the Castro regime in Cuba could have survived for so long, while its sworn enemy, the US, has been capable of wiping it out outright?
By the way, it is genuinely a fool's errand to expect any non-western country to be an example of western civilization, as proven by numerous failed attempts by the US and other western countries at such a wild goose chase.
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